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It's not like -- you're making a hoye pa loi argument versus the hoity-toity. >> i'm not saying that. there's an insider versus outsider question here. for ten year, i've been doing this from the outside, taking on corporations and beating them. but in fact, as an outsider this is the only way to get my message out. it's what i've been doing for ten years, is really, when i see something wrong, and i see something really wrong here, i see a broken government and no one calling it out, no one calling for term limits, i'm the person here, only person who will say climate is my number one priorit...

Little bit. here's yet another thing i missed. not sure what i'm doing here with all these misses but there is a strain in this country of looking at really wealthy people who are outside of politics and thinking, that's the answer. henry ford was seriously considered as a president, ross per perot, both romneys. it's in that answer about lobbyists. i can't be bought and i'm too rich to steal. and all these other people, one way or another, are groping for money from people who want influence. that's what he said in that first debate. that and kimberly's -- and molly both, you're exactly right...

Infamous and famous businessmen who turned to politics and preached nationalism. >> i would broaden it out a little bit. here's yet another thing i missed. not sure what i'm doing here with all these misses but there is a strain in this country of looking at really wealthy people who are outside of politics and thinking, that's the answer. henry ford was seriously considered as a president, ross per perot, both romneys. it's in that answer about lobbyists. i can't be bought and i'm too rich to steal. and all these other people, one way or another, are groping for money from people who want inf...

With inequality and holding big banks accountable. wouldn't she be in a good position to sort of push the conversation on that through a presidential primary? >> that's a great fundamental question for somebody like elizabeth warren who has such a big following. she -- let's say she wouldn't win a primary, just to stipulate late, to answer your question. is she better off pushing healthing hillary rodham clinton to the center or another candidate to the center, to build her own constituency for power later on, or is she better off cozying up to whoever the democratic nominee is perhaps by writ...