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Afghanistan, could this have been prevented, not only leaving our equipment and leaving the country to the taliban but 20,000 of translators, helpers, cleaners and others who believed in america all these years and now we're high-tailing it out of there. >> yeah, i think -- i mean, there's going to be a lot of time for after action review, that's for certain but reality is we've got to get our security back in there and fulfill this mission. this mission was to be an orderly withdrawal and that's not what's happening today and so you've got a lot of our personnel and a lot of our immediate all...

Time to make sure -- yes, they had plans on the books, but they didn't have them to conduct an urgent withdrawal. again, things were changing already on the ground as richard engel has mentioned. >> i want to ask you about what you said a moment ago, this was in fact massively bungled. "new york times" writes if there's a consistent theme, it is the over-estimation of the results of the $83 billion the united states has spent since 2001, and underestimation of the beautiful, wily strategy of the taliban. how do you see that? i mean, do you agree? >> yes, absolutely, we overestimated what we co...