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Imperative for these companies. they are playing for their shareholders. i'm not saying in a negative way. that's the business they are in. the answer to your question is the free market is not going to allow -- actually, nor should it allow for frankly companies to say it is our job to live for -- it is company's jobs to make profits for their shareholders. that is a harsh reality of capitalism and so it's got to come from other places and that is just, guys, it is what it is. and am what it am. >> most people would say the american dream is achieving the financial independence and mika's poi...

What you have is a worldwide race to the bottom where everybody is trying to offer a freebie to these companies to come locate a few jobs there. and the only way to stop it, the reason i said maybe we should get rid of it the only other way to stop this would be for every country in the world to get together and say, we are not allowing countries to gain tax any more. >> that will not happen. mika, my comment, we have a higher corporate rate tax. my comment to steve regard his that we get rid of the corporate rate tax. he is such a capitalist, it offends me. >> expensive. >> i'm trying to tax ...

That a lot of folks have worried about, that it's becoming uglier if that seemed possible, because of the immediacy, the number of people that mika was asking you why the secretary was having a hard time answering the question that david gregory was asking. well, the answer was the congressman who came on afterward and the answer is rick perry, because this is politically a very difficult issue, mostly on the republican right. i think that -- i think the president should probably address it more forthrightly. >> i think seeing the pictures of the children and see the human faces is something t...

I did some things that i've never done before. it was fun and we had lots of family time and, in fact, we had so much family time, i thought it should continue to both girls are working for me today. >> i got a little survey with carly and amelia. i said if we could change anything about mom, what would we do? as, joe, you spent many hours a day -- >> tell carly to turn around! stop it! >> carly! >> here is what they said. they said less nagging and please take the energy down. joe as her business partner would you confer on both of those critiques? >> mika is perfect. >> i'm perfect, steve. >...