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Peace, and the other guy is a guy who never saw war and talks like a hawk, and i have a problem like that. romney talks about he has been to war, but he hasn't. am i right? h. >> well, the parallels are not even, but the point is that stevenson is much more eloquent than eisenhower and stevenson was much more admired by intellectuals than eisenhower and presidents come from different backgrounds and who would have guessed in 1860 that lincoln would end up being as eloquent and effective as he was. i am just saying that -- >> you are saying it is a long shot? >> you are saying that you don't kn...

And he listens to them well. and he asks them tough questions, and he is approaching this as methodically as anybody i know. you know, back in the 1950s, sam le bell one of the great political scientists of all time was at election night with a whole bunch of academics who were shocked that eisenhower won over stevenson and walked around the room and not a single person in the room had voted for eisenhower, and he said, guys, this is a sign of how big the gap is in america. >> i understand that. >> okay. mitt romney is a lot like eisenhower, and he is a very good organizer and methodical perso...

Gingrich or be a nice guy and not be the nominee. >> he has assem bailed very smart group of people. and he listens to them well. and he asked them tough questions and he's approaching this as methodically as anybody. back in the 1950s, sam well abell was one of the great political scientists. was at election night with academics who were shocked eisenhower won over stevenson and walked around the room. not a single person in the room had voted for eisenhower. he said, this is a sign of how big the gap is in america. >> i understand that. >> okay, mitt romney is a lot like eisenhower. he is a ...

Political scientists of all time was at election night with a whole bunch of academics who were shocked that eisenhower won over stevenson and walked around the room and not a single person in the room had voted for eisenhower, and he said, guys, this is a sign of how big the gap is in america. >> i understand that. >> okay. mitt romney is a lot like eisenhower. he is a very good organizer and methodical person and prepared to systematically do what he thinks is right for the country, and i think he might make a surprisingly good president. >> that where it gets to me, because eisenhower recei...

>> well, the parallels are not even, but the point is that stevenson is much more eloquent than eisenhower and stevenson was much more admired by intellectuals than eisenhower and presidents come from different backgrounds. who would have guessed in 1860 that lincoln would be eloquent and as effective as he was? >> you are saying it is a long shot? >> i am saying that you don't know today and he doesn't know today exactly what kind of president he will be. but you won't agree with this, but look at obama. obama is one of the most articulate, eloquent people we have ever had and he is largely a...