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Classified briefing it's come out, and be in there and say, i read this in the new york times the other day. or, is it a combination of the two things? joyce and then harry. >> i think it is exactly the right question. yes, we have an overclassification problem. everyone in government knows that. i would echo clear. i have been in briefings were subsequently, within days, the information was. public and that is a situation we need to reckon with going towards the future. but we cannot say enough how different these situations involving trump mishandling documents and to be discoveries in biden...

Sitting, president president biden and the former president donald trump. my question is, is it's a problem of elected officials mishandling classified information? or is the question of overclassification of documents, that is at play here? or is it both? >>, well jonathan, there's a couple of main points here. number, one i take and i know roger takes very seriously the headline of classified information, that sometimes these are operational secrets. americans lives can be at stake. this is very serious stuff and we have an obligation to take it very seriously. that is number one. number two...

Unforced political error after political error. it helps trump. he's, you know, he exaggerates what he did was worse. but he will say this is, you know, a two tiered standard of justice. >> some democrats think that they should have done the search biden properties back in august when the documents were found at mar-a-lago just to be sure. speaking of classified documents, you said the u.s. has an overclassification problem. >> again, all the documents should have gone back to biden or trump. there is april estimate that it classifies over 50 million documents a year. and, you know, government...

Because those were fbi agents who did a more thorough search yesterday. sorry, on friday. and they found six more classified documents. drip drip drip. the more the states in the headlines the more damaging it is to biden and his family. >> on, thursday the president talked about this for the first time listen what he has to say. >> i think you're going to find there is nothing there. i have no regrets. i am following what the lawyers have told me they want me to do which is exactly what we are doing. there is no there there. >> david, to what degree -- i'm just trying to get my head around ho...

We're talking about a document at the highest level, that should have never left the west wing, but we know there are other documents that can be labeled classified that often have fairly mundane information that don't necessarily merit those classifications. there is an overclassification problem in the federal government that i think this whole, both situations here is exposing. >> and the trump team has argued that as well, that there is an overclassification issue. susan, the white house has known about this for months. at least the first batch for months, and at the same time that they kn...