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But congress has an oversight function. you have an administration that has provided massive tax cuts to corporations and businesses. the american public has a right to know what the financial interests are of the people who are passing those policies. we have a right, frankly, to have the tax returns of howard schultz when he's going to run for president or anyone running for president. that's the oversight of the united states congress. >> well, you mentioned shultz. one of the things that exists in current election law is a lot of information about donations but not as much required informa...

But congress has an oversight function. the administration has provided massive tax cuts. the american public has a right to know what the financial interests are of the people passing those policies. we have a right to have the tax returns of howard shultz when he's going to run for president or anyone running for president. that's the oversight of the united states congress. >> well, you mentioned shultz. one of the things that exists in current election law is a lot of information about donations but not as much required information about these candidates, about the tax returns which everyo...

Grandstanding, especially among people new to the congress, people who want to stake their claim on this hearing. what if it was under seal for a finite amount of time? aren't there ways around this other than go to hell coverage on all the networks and live tv coverage? >> i think they could do portions of it behind closed doors and closed session perhaps as an accommodation to the special counsel's office to explore areas like the trump tower moscow deal that we know are under investigation, active investigation by bob mueller. but there are other areas that for the purposes of oversight you...

Increase transparency. and i think in some ways it could be a capitulation to the president's intimidation tactics to say we're not going to do this in public. and by the way, i'm not sure that really saves michael cohen much of a headache at all. we still have the president of the united states making threats against his family. and that won't go away, brian, if it's an open or closed session. >> and a quick question that people have asked me, are you going learn any more in a hearing room than all the conceivable questions the feds are going to come up with to ask this guy is there a chance ...

Going learn any more in a hearing room than all the conceivable questions the feds are going to come up with to ask this guy? is there a chance that someone will come at it from an unusual angle and ask that one key question that becomes the sound bite on broadcasts like this one? >> from my perspective, absolutely. and, more importantly, congress is an independent branch of government and they have an oversight function, an oversight role to understand the leverage the russian federation has over the president of the united states. and the trump organization and its inner workers are key to t...