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Essential -- you may make decisions that more political than policy based, that's all within the realm of normal politics. but if you make up everything about yourself, how can you be trusted with anything? and so i think that puts us, you're, right he's an anomaly. that puts this case in a different category. it makes all these choices about committee assignments, or what to the next two years we like, it puts different sticks on all of them. >> then there's oversight. >> the idea, i was a executive branch, is the work chart, the doj, the fbi, and the idea of there being some of the oversight...

The power doesn't mean he should do it. and i've heard nothing from anybody from various congressmen i was meeting and elsewhere that provides a -- that has a connective tissue and a legislative purpose which is the reason why he has every reason to look at them, but to release them publicly creates a moshl hazard and bad precedent and just feels punitive. and i don't think that's a good precedent for the country to release private tax returns because he has it coming. that's not a legislative purpose. >> their purpose in part the idea of the mandatory audit that has to happen when you have a ...

Mean he should do it. i have heard nothing from anybody, from the various congressman in the committee and elsewhere that provide's, that has a connective tissue of a legislative purpose, which is the reason why, he has every reason to look at them, i think he was right to look at them, but to release them publicly creates a moral hazard and a bad precedent and it just feels punitive. and i don't think that that is a good president for the comp country to release private tax returns because he has it coming. >> their purpose in part, the idea of the mandatory audit right, that has to happen wh...

Number. he is attempting to appease them on an early stage. you know we impeach for people, who presidents who incite violent insurrections and attempted coups. but we impeach presidents who attempt to extort our allies like ukraine. we don't impeach for policy disagreements. there is an oversight function which is all together, fitting appropriate. and if you don't like what the secretary is doing, you can talk about that. you can introduce legislation to address it. jumping to impeachment, it goes beyond bullying. it is well beyond constitutional her beal's and i think it is what we should e...

Oversight committee, is not interested in investigating the mar-a-lago raid, however, he is interested in investigating whether the department of justice coordinated with outside actors when they declared people to go to the school boards to voice their opinions to be domestic terrorists. that's a legitimate function. we have had zero hearings in the u.s. house looking into the botched withdrawal of afghanistan, that's an oversight function. when you see this congress take place, they're going to see that. >> there have been hearings. i just think that this is the tail wagging the dog, and, yo...