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Ukrainian government, and you watch pompeo walking away from cameras and not being forthcoming about even being on the call, i think this not only does that add to the president's paranoia, i guarantee you it is adding to republican senators' paranoia. >> that was a trick question because i know what you're thinking about is the cards and braves at 5:00 this afternoon. >> i know. it's like our christmas in st. louis, the beginning of the playoffs today, 4:00 in st. louis times and barnes back in the lineup. >> there you go. house democrats say they're not fooling around when it comes to the uk...

Light on this information so that the american people can make a judgment. and this is why by the way you have intelligence committees. you know this from having worked on the hill. they were set up precisely so that you had a venue for oversight because in the past when you didn't have intelligence committees you had huge abuses of power by the executive branch. this is precisely why you have congressional oversight intelligence. >> i want to read that section of the law ellen was just talking about, the definition of urgent concern. the employee who filed this, this whistle blower report, ha...

That the american people can make a judgment. and this is why by the way you have intelligence committees. you know this from having worked on the hill. they were set up precisely so that you had a venue for oversight because in the past when you didn't have intelligence committees you had huge abuses of power by the executive branch. this is precisely why you have congressional oversight intelligence. >> i want to read that section of the law ellen was just talking about, the definition of urgent concern. the employee who filed this, this whistle blower report, had to have what the law calls ...

Joining us now, a member of the oversight intelligence and armed services committee. she is up there. thanks for joining us. i want to quickly begin with the news that michael cohen decided to postpone at a minimum his public testimony in front of your committee and the house oversight committee siting alleged threats to his family made by the president and president's lawyer. how did you learn about this decision? >> i learned about it just like everyone else through the media. it is a shocking disclosure by michael cohen. i feel like i'm in the middle of a god father movie the way the presid...

It's weak. >> what is his father-in-law's name? >> i don't know. you'll find out if you look into it. nobody knows what's going on over there. >> in response, the democratic chairman of the oversight intelligence and judiciary committees in the house issued a joint statement quote the integrity of our process is to serve as an independent check on the executive branch must be respected by everyone, including the president. our nation's laws prohibit efforts to discourage n-ti my date or otherwise pressure a witness not to provide testimony to congress. the president should make no statement or...