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What we're opposed to is finding a grandfather, because you're doing a sweep, who 20 years ago -- who's overstayed a visa, lived in this country for 25 years and 20 years ago he had a dwi. we should not be spending money keeping him in prison. we should be focusing on the hardened criminals. we've got to make sure that messaging is clear, because up to now, the messaging has been very clear, mexico is not paying for the wall and he's lying about the facts. >> and it's interesting you bring that up, because one thing i think is a funny version in these discussions is that it is extremely, stagg...

President sat there and said, you bring me a deal, i'm going to sign it, i'm not going to say i don't like this, i don't like that, then he ripped it up, can you make a deal with this president, first, as a just broad question? >> well, i think he wants to make a deal, because there's a couple of things we know he is fixated on. crowd size and his polling numbers. and he knows his polling numbers took a deep dive because of all of the chaos around his shutdown. so i think he wants to avoid another shutdown. so i think he stepped back, and i think mitch mcconnell said, let us get this. i think ...

Yup, that was a roundtable discussion with border officials yesterday who actually know how things work there. president trump being shown that tunnels had been dug under already existing walls. trump made several carefully orchestrated appearances at the border. that one didn't go very well, aimed at dramatizing what he calls a crisis. surrounded by border agents and contraband. including at that roundtable discussion where seized stacks of heroin, meth, guns and cash were prominently displayed yet as the "new york times" points out the display of drugs, weapons and cash was mainly the produc...

Maine recently agents asked people boarding the bus if they were u.s. citizens. u.s. customs and border patrol officials confirm their agents routinely engage in operations at transportation hubs throughout the state. the american civil liberties union of maine finds the practice troubling. they're seeking federal records to find out more. >> none of us want to live in a society where we're consistently being told we need to show our papers. >> the law grants immigration officers broad powers searching for aliens on boats, trains, planes and others without a warrant within 100 miles of the bor...

Which is i think on his right, donald trump is talking to an important segment of the republican party, this nativist element. something that sarah palin started in 2008 and the republicans have nursed this and used it to their benefit to the win congressional elections in 2010 and 2014 and it's coming home to roost. sort of like dr. frankenstein waking up and wondering where did that monster come from. this is something they created themselves. >> there's nothing nativist. before we look at people who are here illegally, people who have overstayed a visa which is fundamentally unfair to say y...