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Back the political and economic stakes they have in the government which prime minister maliky doesn't seem to want to do. >> ken, there's an interesting piece in slate from fred kaplan talking about our potential future relationship with iran in this situation. and kaplan says sometimes nations form alliances with unpleasant nations to prevent something worse from happening. america and iran have a common interest here in keeping the sunni radicals from overtaking iraq. is it possible that we -- can we afford to not work with iran here? >> i think you put it the right way. we can't afford to ...

Things covertly, quietly that were very helpful to us because we both hated the taliban and al qaeda. now, in the case of iraq you're absolutely right, we and iran share some very important interests. neither of us wants to see iraq continue in the state of civil war. both of us would like to pull it out. that creates at least the basis for moving forward. the one thing that we have to remember, though, is once we get beyond those minimal interests that we share we have very different interests. iran would like to see iraq iranian aligned, shia dominated, may not care whether it's a democracy ...

Republican party is split almost right down the middle. half do represent those hawks, and you're trying to see folks like marco rubio carry that hawk banner, perhaps into 2016. the other part of the republican party are the rand pauls. and even someone like glenn beck was on his radio program recently and saying that democratic liberals had it right when it came to iraq, that the united states shouldn't have gotten involved in the very first place. so there is a very big divide. i do think the republican party, there are a few more hawks than there are the rand pauls and the pure libertarians...

Leaders out of office and it's really isolated the sunni committee, driven them away. the problem we've got is they've been driven into the arms of isis, of al qaeda, of all of these other tsunami militant groups. but the truth is they don't want to be there. they are very wary of those guys. you can say that on the one hand baghdadi and isis, they seem to have learned that lesson. to your point they seem to be behaving themselves up in mosul and the other cities that they've captured. but at the end of the day the sunni iraqi tribes really have no love for isis and really don't want to be in ...

Other issues they've had to deal with that have turned out to be controversial. look at the crisis that happened in ukraine, the va hospital situation there. now you end up having the instability in iraq. sxeen on an issue that should have been a winner and everyone should have been really happy about, the freedom of bowe bergdahl, that u.s. soldier in afghanistan, turned out to be anything but. so there's just been one controversy after another. and the administration has taken on that water. >> brian, i'm interested what you make of those poll numbers showing obama with a lower approval rati...