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And they will -- that will no doubt be a challenge as some republicans suggest threatening a government shutdown to block funding on president obama's immigration plan. the fox news political insiders are back, pad goodell, doug schoene and brad blakeman. do you think republican also go through with that? >> i don't think they will, heather, i think they learned their lesson last time that the government shut down is that all that happens is it turns people against them. that being said, i think we know how heart felt and strong passions are inside the republican caucus in both the senate and ...

Democratic pollsters. on the final page it lists a number of don'ts for democrats, including don't say it will reduce costs in the deficit. pad goodell says democrats are committing political suicide again. healthcare did them in and now they're doing it again. >> they're making it worse. they're saying the very people who, when doug and i wrote our piece on the march of folly, just before healthcare vote, that this was a suicide walk they were on, these are the same pollsters who ran to the hill, refuting us, saying people are going to like this once it's done. they went to the hill and convi...

Presidents were chosen. >> nobody knew what they were doing. caucus system, no one was contesting it much. >> in 1972, pad goodell worked as pollster for george m mcgovern campaign who was polling at 5% nationally, months before the iowa caucuses. >> the game in iowa exceed what people expect you to do, give you credibility, raise money and give you support and momentum. >> bret: mcgovern beat expectations and placing second behind front-runner ed mcmuskey. he went on to win the nomination and lost to richard nixon by a land slide. gerald ford replaced nixon after water gate. in 1976, iowa rep...

>> nobody knew what they were doing. caucus system, no one was contesting it much. >> in 1972, pad goodell worked as pollster for george m mcgovern campaign who was polling at 5% nationally, months before the iowa caucuses. >> the game in iowa exceed what people expect you to do, give you credibility, raise money and give you support and momentum. >> bret: mcgovern beat expectations and placing second behind front-runner ed mcmuskey. he went on to win the nomination and lost to richard nixon by a land slide. gerald ford replaced nixon after water gate. in 1976, iowa republicans moved their cus...

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