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Now in a usual case, an indictment would be returned to a Magistrate Judge in a sealed hearing. It would remain under seal until arrest. But jake, again, we dont know if there is an indictment here. But if there is, its unclear if theyre going to follow the usual script, because this case is of course completely unprecedented. We got a little preview, though, in the maralago indictment. What happened there is the former president , youll probably remember, he broke the news On Truth Social, and then there was several days before we got the details of the case. The Special Counsel got a lot of ...

to mention our allies around the globe. for days and up until now, months. so the way that the president's demeanor in that report was characterized could not be more wrong on the facts. and clearly politically motivated, gratuitous. and, so, i will say that when it comes to the role and responsibility of a prosecutor in a situation like that, we should expect that there would be a higher level of integrity than what we saw. thank you. thank you for the question. >> vice president harris pushing back strongly against special counsel robert hur's report. more on that coming up. good...

present its case and we don't know also whether the former president might choose to testify in his own defense. i want to start by bringing in cnn senior legal affairs correspondent paula reid who has been all over this story for many, many week, and paula, the indictment is out now. i wonder, what to you as someone following this and every single move and detail, what stands out to you as the most damning information we've gotten? >> it's such a strong reminder of how little we know compared to investigators. one of the things that struck me and i think will resonate with the ameri...

bathroom, in a ballroom. there you see the photo of them being in a bathroom, boxes just stacked up there in the ballroom. i mean these are pretty flimsy cardboard boxes in a ballroom that is actively being used for events. there you see sensitive defense information, secrets that are only meant to be shared with a small handful of our closest allies, and they're strewn about the floor of a storage closet. and it's one thing to say that in an indictment, but it's another to support this with photographs. that was one of the things that really struck me in this indictment. but the bre...

a bedrock principle of the department of justice and our nation's commitment to the rule of law sets a an example for the world. we have one set of laws in this country and they apply to everyone. applying those laws, collecting facts, that's what determines the outcome of an investigation. nothing more, nothing less. >> the words of rachel math maddow, stunningly simple words in both the indictment and from behind the podium. it was the first time we as an american public have ever heard from the special counsel notably he praised the fbi and the prosecutors on his team. rachel poin...