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There's a little bit of a pall over the crowd. cowboys and indians were a rivalry a long time before football. >> i think this is our first road trip with jessie. >> any advice for me on the road? >> [bleep] >> lawrence jones is here with us, he's from texas, you know him from fox news. et's bring in lawrence jones. this is your recommendation. why did you pick this place? you used to come here a lot? >> yeah, because they don't rush the process. they season their meat. they marinate it and then they put it in the smoker, get that extra flavor in there and it's so good, right? >> when they say...

That isis has been defeated caught a lot of people by surprise and not true. as any student of the vietnam or iraq wars with tell you, just taking territory is not the same as defeating the enemy. police lynn to the special envoy, bret mcgurk, said one week ago. >> we have obviously learned a lot of lessons in the pall. we can't just pick up and leave. areas that have cleared of isis has not returned, no one is saying they're going to disappear. nobody is that naive. we want to stay on the ground and make sure that stability can be maintained. >> reporter: we're talking about years? >> i'm not...

So whether or not the judge just got the date wrong could be, or it could be that he knows more and thinks that he continued to be influenced while he was in the white house. and he made that case today. >> yeah. and once you've taken hundreds of thousands of dollars secretly from a foreign government, it does tend to cast a pall over your subsequent interactions pursuing that country's aims. julia ainsley, reporter for nshz news. thank you so much for being with us. >> thanks, rachel. >> much more to cover. stay with us. what happened to you? i got beat up because i was different. you can't k...

Administration and your work trying to fuel u.s. foreign policy and get a feeling of who your partners will be on a world stage before you come into your position at the white house? jared kushner has had some of these same questions raised about his meetings. michael flynn could have been -- and he did, as it shows in those 302s that we saw yesterday, the interviews with the fbi agents, he did reach out to multiple foreign officials. it just seems that his contacts with russia and with turkey were a little cozier than they were with almost anyone else. and you point out that money. he disclos...

To me it just smacks of trying to cast a pall on the senate that somehow or another they're not acting in the best interest of the country because i don't think that's true. >> let's look at it differently. i think you see this as a manifesto, i don't. but that's why we have different voices on the show. i think this is about something very true which is that you cannot sit idly by in times like this as if what's going on with the probe doesn't affect you. did you see lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, in the house and senate, when they get asked about this stuff, if they're key players on ...