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Of the trump administration, shadow of russia and them trying to push the agenda to get the ideas out there and sort of the split screen. >> jill, the defendant fi he defended mike flynn. he calledll of this a witch hunt. and we pressed sean spicer earlier this week whether he stood by. spicer didn't back away from that, but how difficult will it become for the president, for this administration to not completely distance itself from mike flynn? >> i mean it's quite extraordinary. >> yeah. >> the reason the president gave for firing mike flynn was not for anything he did during the transition ...

Permission or asked if it was okay to receive payments from foreign governments. he also said there's not a shred of evidence that he disclosed such payments. you heard him talk about the i.g. investigation and make the case that essentially everything they have learned runs counter to what flynn's own attorney said. he said, come on, man. the white house press secretary sean spicer who argued earlier this week that the white house didn't have the documents they were seeking as it related to flynn. and then richard blumenthal there moments ago effectively saying all of this amounts to evidence...

To me from this is that cummins said he wants to call flynn before the committee to testify, that as flynn's lawyer said, flynn has a story to tell but that he's getting resistance from the committee's chairman and that that resistance might be coming from the speaker. >> and that's something that will undoubtedly get a lot of questions. stand by, jill. i want to go to kasie hunt who's in that briefing with congressman cummins. c kasie, i believe you were pressing him on who or not he thought flynn's lawyer had been lying to him. take us to what the headlines are. >> i think you heard congress...

At this point, to hear a democratic senator say he wants an independent prosecutor, a special prosecutor, that's not a change. >> that's a great point. ned, let me bring you back in on that point. if you didn't hear, we're talking about the possibility of a special prosecutor. that is a difficult task. do you anticipate that's the next step? >> well, i think it certainly needs to be. i think we're beginning to continue to see resistance from this white house because they certainly appreciate the fact that a special prosecutor would have authority and standing to get to these documents that the...