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It's exciting but i don't find it quite as papa tating as it was 30 years ago. >> do you still have any contact with william? >> i didn't have contact with william, unlike you. i know dined with him and her on one occasion. >> i did -- it was a fascinating lunch. just the three of us. and paul burrow of course the notorious butler was serving the drinks. i was struck by the remarkable closeness of the relationship between william and his mother. even at 13. she told him everything about her life. it was all being laid bare on the front pages of newspapers so he had to grow up very quickly, tha...

I think the difference was charles was the heir to the throne. it was a donastic union on a grand scale. we had president reagan's wife was among the well wishers. it's different. william is the heir in line. it's not a state occasion. we know that william would have much preferred a smaller family-type affair. and he's sort of been gently nudged in this direction. it's exciting but i don't find it quite as papa tating as it was 30 years ago. >> do you still have any contact with william? >> i didn't have contact with william, unlike you. i know dined with him and her on one occasion. >> i did...