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Martha: president obama and the first lady are paying visit to buckingham palace. prince phillip was there as well. the royal newlyweds. prince william and kate middleton joined them. paul burrow is the former butler for princess diana. paul, welcome, good to see you. there was a lot of scuttlebutt over the fact that obamas aren't invited to the wedding. an invitation wasn't expended to the first lady. do we feel this is going some of the way to smooth that over perhaps? >> absolutely. the president and mrs. obama did have a private meeting with william and kate. i think they were thrilled by

It's exciting but i don't find it quite as papa tating as it was 30 years ago. >> do you still have any contact with william? >> i didn't have contact with william, unlike you. i know dined with him and her on one occasion. >> i did -- it was a fascinating lunch. just the three of us. and paul burrow of course the notorious butler was serving the drinks. i was struck by the remarkable closeness of the relationship between william and his mother. even at 13. she told him everything about her life. it was all being laid bare on the front pages of newspapers so he had to grow up very quickly, tha...

I think the difference was charles was the heir to the throne. it was a donastic union on a grand scale. we had president reagan's wife was among the well wishers. it's different. william is the heir in line. it's not a state occasion. we know that william would have much preferred a smaller family-type affair. and he's sort of been gently nudged in this direction. it's exciting but i don't find it quite as papa tating as it was 30 years ago. >> do you still have any contact with william? >> i didn't have contact with william, unlike you. i know dined with him and her on one occasion. >> i did...