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Or colluding with him or giving himself in limb information that backed up the president's tweet and not giving it to anyone else, how big of a sfwloob? >> it is politically interesting but it's nowhere near the problem tha the russians can do in our next election by pitting malware into our voting machines and so forth over the course of the next period of time before the next election. there's a real danger here. 25%, approximately, of our voting machines in the united states do t not have paper backups, so if the electronics have been tampered with, you will never know, and you can't do a r...

She says she has not been told of any specific threats by homeland security. if donald trump does raise concerns about the vote in pennsylvania, what are you going to do? you can't go back and recount in two-thirds of the state. >> i think that he would have to have some evidence -- i think that those concerns would be unfounded, because the risk of that happening is very low, as i've described. >> reporter: is that a satisfactory answer to you? these machines need to be swapped out at some point, don't they? >> there's a lot of legacy systems in use in the united states, and they will all pro...

And we all know that they were happy to shut down the entire economy of the world to get their way. why pay attention to them. let's focus on what we have to do which is fix the website, fix the program. we're probably going to need some paper backups. we've got to get folks signed up. i don't think it's a good idea to delay. i understand senators are worried about their re-election. let's worry about health care an stop worrying about politics. >> november 30th will be here before we know it. great to have you on, thanks so much. >> thank you. it's being called shop and frisk. barneys has u...