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Trouble. what do you make of the prosecution of defense strategy here. it is as simple cross-examination to gates. you met with mueller with the fbi, yes. are you under oath now? yes. you are saying something consiste inconsistent with that. which is it? it gives the defense an opportunity to derirty up the case. it gives them the opportunity to defend manafort effectively. you have a paper case and for bank fraud and tax fraud, the evidence is very strong. now and the washington post is right about this. gates' testimony against manafort, both men made millions of dollars as political consult...

A paper case because paper can't get cross examined. having said that where do you think the opportunities are as they go by in realtime for the defense to come back and take jabs? >> i think, brian, on monday afternoon we're going to see the defense cross examine the very same government witness that was on the stand today. and i agree with my friend ken that the government scored some critical points. but i do think there's an opportunity she gave to the defense that she's under their immunity agreement which means she's not going to be prosecuted for anything she says on the stand. so the d...

You're watching what's played out in that courtroom over the course of this week with paul manafort, are you worried as donald trump's lawyer? a, are you worried, and b, if you're worried, what are the things you've seen this week that as donald trump's lawyer you would be most concerned about? >> you've got to be deeply worried. like barb says, it's a paper case and you can't cross-examine paper. it says what it says. it's evidence that the jury will have back with them in the jury room when they deliberate. the other problem that emerges for manafort from this testimony is now a string of ac...

Obligation to disclose those accounts of more than $10,000. and while the testimony was understated at some opponent mrs. manafort, kathleen manafort, began to dab her eye, got slightly emotional and got up and left the courtroom. when i heard that had happened i thought, okay, i'm not crazy. it's true this trial is going very poorly for mr. manafort. because if you look at manafort you don't get that, he's look at his lawyers seeming like everything is fine. but the evidence has been very damning. and the defense thus far has been quite ineffective. they've essentially stipulated to most of t...

We got to the meat of the matter, which were records. and i guess you know michael, same question, how much trouble does it look like manafort is in? >> you know the reason for showing those things is greed the prosecutor is trying to put up everyday there was greed in the case and also show that manafort knew what was going on. i think the evidence coming this week has been damage against him. most of what the government has been able do, the special prosecutor's team, look, he knew about this. he was directing the book keerps and on what to do. woo ill they are throwing off on gates, it was ...