Documents and that has very little to do with the fundamental problem, which is lois lerner's unit headed by lois lerner and directed by lois lerner unfairly targeted and abused conservative groups for what they believed. >> so let me just say okay, so right now, you were saying this, she violated the paperwork act. she should have had this thing, if she didn't back up these things she should have backed up these things. we're a long way from the original investigation which is did this unit unfairly target conservative groups. do you have proof positive of that and what is it? >> we published...