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take this country backward. backwards to an america where there is no right to choose, no right to privacy, no right to contraception, no right to marry who you love. >> biden slammed what he called trump's threat to democracy, the former president publicly dangled pardons for the rioters who violently stormed the capitol on january 6th, attacking police officers, and threatening the lives of lawmakers at the capitol of both parties. this as two former trump white house lawyers are expected to appear today before a grand jury in d.c. investigating the january 6th attack. plus, signif...

George, thanks so much for being with us this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to start with this pardon dangle. the former president didn't just call for people to take to the streets if these court cases go against him, but he also seemed to suggest he would, if elected, pardon the people behind the insurrection. listen. >> if i run and if i win, we will treat those people from january 6th fairly. we will treat them fairly. and if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons because they are being treated so unfairly. >> the legal implications of that, george. >> if it were poss...

If they are going down this rabbit hole, they can go down there. i want to make sure there's not undue influence put on the intelligence community or any effort to disclose sources and methods because peoples lives have been at stake. >> mike flynn. there seem to be a very overt tweet from the president today about mike flynn's new lawyer. he fired his attorney. great lawyer from the president. is this a pardon dangle? >> i don't have the foggiest idea. >> are you worried about it? >> it worried y eies me greatly. we have not been able to speak in recent times with general flynn. >> are you go...

Pardon? >> and that's the big question. let me ask our legal analysts how they interpret it. jennifer, friends in high places? does this sound like a pardon dangle to you or just somebody trying to keep the relationship strong or even repairing a relationship that may not be as strong? >> well, you know, it's hard to tell, obviously, it's very vague. but here is a time when the feds have gone in and seized, pursuant to court order, a bunch of materials. a lot of that communications between trump and cohen and cohen's work for trump. so they're kind of all in this universe of what's out there, ...

Separated from in the summer of 2018, but if he remained on the president's team, he would have nothing worry about. >> all right, thank you for the reporting, gloria. let's break it down with our legal analysts. asha and nicole are back with us now. asha, friends in high places, sleep well tonight. you have friends in high places. how do you interpret that? pardon dangle or just trying to make sure the relationship stayed strong? >> it sounds more than simply keeping the relationship strong, but i think that this would be a stretch to use this as evidence of a dangle. i think you would need s...