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About these pardons, and whether or not pardons can eventually be viewed in the context of obstruction of justice, the pardon dangle, whatever it is, how do legal experts view that? >> iter opens up a really thorn question. can prosecutors, members of the executive orbranch, investigate the president for exercising ai constitutional ngauthority? that's not really clear. it's pretty clear congress can certainly look at it, and my reporting says congress is very interested in the question of whetheron michael coheny had a pardonr dangled before him at time when he was essentially lying on behalf...

Research showed that we really had no option, that the pardon, as the professor just said, it is a very unlimited and powerful piece of power that he has to pardon. it cannot be undone. but it doesn't apply to the state. >> professor, so, there's a sort of interesting constitutional question here, because of the power of the pardon, right? which is, in the text of the constitution, essentially unconstrained, as far as i can tell, and yet, it does seem intuitively that if you were to say, hey, criminal co-conspirator, i'm going to pardon you if you keep silent, that's obviously some type of vio...

Does a pardon dangle, if such exists, have? >> well, this is a question that's come up a great deal over the course of the mueller investigation and the issue is not whether or not the president has the power to pardon whom ever he wishes. i think it's clear that he does. but he doesn't have the power to violate other laws, including those that prohibit obstruction of justice. for example we're showing that president was offering a pardon or extending a pardon for the purpose of obstructing justice frrks the purpose, for example of making it possible for mr. manafort to in some way continue to...

Loyalty from comey, asking comey to drop the flynn case, firing comey, dictating a false statement for a key witness, his son, now this pardon dangle. any one of these by themselves you might say, oh, it could go either way, but now there's almost two years of it, and i think it is taken together, it is very substantial evidence of what you look for in obstruction, interference with an investigation with corrupt intent, with some improper purpose. so, we'll leave it to bob mueller to say in the final analysis what the weight of the evidence is, but i believe that if this were anybody other tha...

He's working with his boss. that may turn out to be fascinating because he was in the june meeting with the russian and with don junior, and that's so critical we're all interested in. it's hard to believe after you read these memos, which i invite your viewers to read, they're all online, that he isn't the type of guy that would tell his boss, look, look, i'm going to bring in these memos or look, look, i know about these memos. what we're looking for is to find out whether trump knew that meeting was going to happen before or after. and probably mueller already knows. >> we have been focused...