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I think that would be the best world of all. what he is doing with nato in your last segment. nato aren't contributing their fair share. i would guess the difference between what germany is contributing to nato and what they should is way more than any of the tariffs we are talking about. every single situation the u.s. pays more than everything else to the u.n., nato, all of these things and he is right not to want that to continue. >> sandra: you know i'm a market watcher, art, as long as i've known you and i will rewatch it closely. perspective is everything. when you look at the dow sittin...

He kind of sounded as though he didn't want to do that much for nato initially in part because a lot of those countries aren't contributing their fair share. he made that point. but now that we are in a situation where we've got to kind of be that hegemonic power of the world that we always were, and he's realizing it, is he changing his mind? >> i think he certainly changed his mind but rather than accuse him of being a flip flopper, i applaud this. i think it is an evolution. i think it's progress. i think he's a president who was elected. everybody knew he didn't have foreign policy experie...

This has fired up everyone to get involved and organized. >> and of course we are only days away from the inauguration of donald trump. and the country has never been quite as divided as this, has it? it is a great chasm between the sides, and many comedies, the comedy "blackish", there was incredible social comedy on that, just trying to by those two sides together. is it even possible? they're so far apart, aren't they? that's what's so bizarre about donald trump's response to congressman lewis. here we are on the eve of martin luther king jr. day. and this is a day when we are supposed to c...

From his twitter. so we've got an interview. >> and another thing that he talked about was nato. he attacked nato. i mean, we have heard that before. but, again, that would make many feel very uneasy. >> reporter: yeah, teparticular in scandinavia, in eastern europe where there is concern russia is encroaching. many people hold nato very dear, even if they're not members, because they feel that would be what ultimately presents them. but donald trump made it clear that he thinks the concept is outdated, and he gets very frustrated that other members of nato apart from the united states aren't ...

Arguments that joey and avery are making and we're just going to give up the money. >> riverside is dumping out of this thing. the big money was supposed to come from unions and companies. the mayor was creating a fund in los angeles. let's say we'll buy joey's theory on this. where's the money? the unions aren't contributing. at the end of the day, there's going to be some money and it's going to be opinionpennies on t dollar. i don't think they have a chance. >> you get them to pay the money. that's how you get it, avery. they are going to listen to you and i are fork it over. >> i had no id...