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Built by people like those haitian immigrants who came here seeking the american dream and freedom and a chance to live and if we send them back to this country their prospects are not good. haiti is still badly damaged. >> okay. to be fair, alice the haitians, 59,000 of them, came to this country under the obama administration under something called temporary protective status. it was never permanent. to paul's point he says this is about hurting people that don't -- that aren't white. that, you know, that don't look like many americans. do you see it that way? >> well, poppy, you said the ke...

And what he was actually doing is he was highlighting the existence of a criminal gang that is south american, el salvadorian that absolutely has victimized -- >> it started in the united states. >> started in the united states, started in l.a., but has spread through the incarceration system and most of the victims of these crimes are affinity crimes. they're individuals from other countries, sometimes there are citizens of the country, sometimes they're not, of course americans citizens get caught up and every violent criminal who is here should be deported but they are on borrowed time. but...

Through the incarceration system and most of the victims of these crimes are affinity crimes. they're individuals from other countries, sometimes there are citizens of the country, sometimes they're not, of course americans citizens get caught up and every violent criminal who is here should be deported but there is a political move here to highlight people who aren't -- people who aren't white, minorities and to feed part of this really white nationalist, political support of donald trump. and if this overstates what the real problem is, we have violent crimes and criminal gangs here in the u...

Were far more focused on the importance of the court than liberals were, and the liberals may reap the will wind here if trump gets three supreme court appointees. >> you know, joan, i think about, you know what, we were just talking about cornell belcher making the point, you know, hillary clinton got a lot of votes. she got a lot more votes than donald trump did. >> right. >> but the difference was is that her margin among democrats was lower because you had so many younger voters, including voters of color, white, black and indifferent, white, black, hispanic, everything, voting third party...

Internal wranglings inside the clinton campaign and said the following. early on mr. bill clinton had pleaded with robbie mook, mrs. clinton's campaign manager, to do more outreach with working class white and rural voters, but his advice fell on deaf ears. having gone out around the country and talked to these very working class white vote efforts, would it have mattered if hillary clinton had done more outreach to them? >> i really think -- we're having two conversations and pretending they are one conversation. it wasn't just talking to white working class voters. the idea that white workin...