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week? >> i think a lot of that depends on the courage and spawning of the individuals involved. >> would that be a nice way to say of a guy named vice president mike pence? >> yes. >> this level of corruption can't be allowed to stand, and i think that makes the exercise of the vice president's power here very compelling. >> it's quite dangerous. it is a blueprint for how to ignore the vote of the people. that would have cast aside all the legal foundations upon which the country and the democracy is based. >> we now know eastman's memo was not the only multi-step plan to detail how vice president pence could use his role on january 6th to overturn the results of a fair and legal election. another one was written by a trump campaign lawyer named jenna ellis. according to betrayal, the final act of the trump show, a book by abc's jonathan carl, the former president's own chief of staff,
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used four gallons of vanilla ice cream, and i molded the first family and then i invited some of my friends over and we sat around and watched them melt. she was a very dominant voice at the time. i mean, you can find rolling stone covers where it was like richard pryor, lily tomlin, and they are most dangerous comedians doing the most dangerous stuff. they both immersed themselves in characters. the very first lily tomlin special on nbc 1974. they both won emmy awards. so did its producer, a guy named lorne michaels. and based on the strength of that special, the lily special. oh, he got the pilot for saturday night live. then roseanne, roseanne, dana. i don't know where you get it, how you get it or who actually milks the dogs. and i don't care to. hi a saturday night live. definitely early on. amazing that right out of the gate it was laraine newman and jane curtin and gilda radner. and now candy. candy they could definitely hang with the guys. they were just as important and
the murdaugh double murder trial because there's something interesting playing out. for the first time in this trial, the state's attorney general, a guy named allen wilson, is questioning a witness. this is expected to be the last witness. now exactly why the ag has come, we don't know. although it has happened before in south carolina. the jury is hearing from kenneth kinsey. a couple of moments ago, he disputed that testimony from a defense witness who suggested the shooter was between 5'2 and 5'4". it's one of the world east most popular past times. tiktok. most of those users are 16 to 34 and its videos range from dance and drama to food and fashion and most of the time, just a lot
he lost that in the supreme court 8 to 1. so now the new tactic is to say well, they forgot -- so that's no surprise that the justice -- is using a bunch of serious techniques to try to get at that. in fact the most serious technique we just got word of today, which is steve bannon's attorney, a guy named robert costello, the justice department revealed that they've gone to try to get some of bannon's attorneys calling information and email information. that is a really traumatic step that requires high-level approval of the justice department. the justice department's been clear to say they are not seeking attorney client material, they're seeking information outside of that, but to me that demonstrates the real seriousness of this as a response to whet the former white house officials and others in the trump were trying to do stonewalling the investigation. >> as that investigation continues, amy, we've heard
outpacing whatever the doj might be doing? could it be the justices only focusing on prosecuting those who carried out the actual riot? what do you read into this new information? >> i think the committee is reacting to a really unprecedented stall destruction strategy by the trump white house. it started with them trying to destroy the documents -- trump reaping them up. he didn't rip them up in small enough pieces that the archives were able to put them back together. then he asserted executive privilege over the documents trying to prevent them from being turned over to the 16 committee. he lost that in the supreme court 8 to 1. so now the new tactic is to say well, they forgot -- so that's no surprise that the justice -- is using a bunch of serious techniques to try to get at that. in fact the most serious technique we just got word of today, which is steve bannon's attorney, a guy named robert
depending on whether he had the courage and spine to do it. >> are we to assume that this will be a climactic battle, but will take place this week about the very question of the constitutional iot of the -- of 1877? >> i think a lot of that depends on the courage and spine of the individuals involved. >> when you said courage and spine, we know louis -- he is a pure honey badger, down from texas one. that, this guy is tough as texas boot leather, okay? are you talking about the other side of the football, that will be a nice way to say, a guy named vice president mike pence? >> yes. >> so all of this this morning from the washington post, about an email that eastman allegedly sent to pence's team, alleging the vice president ordered the attack, while the attack was taking place. while pence was hiding from the mob, because he did not overturn the election, apparently. eastman confirmed the mail, including a non published draft opinion article, and told the
and my sort of eyes on this. i want you to take a listen to that episode and hear what he said. >> are we to assume that this is going to be a climatic battle that's going to take place this week about the very question of the constitutionality of the electoral count act of 1877. >> it depends on the encourage and the spine of the individuals involved. >> that would be a nice way to say, a guy named vice president mike pence? >> yes. >> reporter: so just a couple days before january 6th, what eastman is suggesting here is that if pence doesn't object to the electoral college votes from the seven states, thus throwing this whole process over to the house because it brings that threshold under 270, he lacks the courage and a spine. i want to read you a part of the email that "the washington post" is reporting on. it says in part, the siege is because you and your boss did not do what was necessary to
withholding of ukraine security assistance. and he said yes. and just yesterday the white house budget office put out a statement saying everything that happened with this aid happened with legal consensus and routine standards and practices were followed. you don't tend to have not one but two people who resigned at least in part because they're so concerned if everything is going according to normal order. one other thing we learned from the deposition we saw the transcript from today, mark sandy after he complained about his concerns about this, he in fact had his job responsibility of overseeing the spending of this kind of money yanked away from him, given instead to his boss, a guy named michael duffy, who's a trump plolitical appointee. >> thanks for your reporting and nice job reading that entire transcript. joining us now is jamey raskin from maryland. congressman, welcome.
>> he's saying, the president has said that these tariffs could be avoided, if companies like yours buy and hire american. but is it really that simple? >> oh, of course it's not that simple. i mean, what he's basically saying is, i have never been to a target or a walmart or bought anything on amazon.com, you know why, because americans are addicted to cheap prices. the highest possible quality, the lowest possible price. until you change capitalism, that is not going to happen. and i've seen this play out in my industry for over two years now. the president makes all of these statements, and his base really buys into them, but the fact of the matter is no one in my industry has moved their production back into america. you know, i just read a book recently written by a guy named scott adams who analyzed the 2016 election. he basically said, trump makes these hysterical statements, let's fix immigration by tariffing mexico, let's build a wall, let's ban a million muslims. it riles his base up