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Important to note is that the fundamental underpink of the affordable care act is a conservative idea first put into the public dopane by the heritage foundation in the 1990s because this was a market based approach. they were for it before they were against it because it's tied to president obama. >> so, governor, is that really what this is? because we've heard a lot about you. it was the heritage foundations plan in 1949, it's the basis for obama care, what we had in massachusetts, is it really as simple as republicans looked at this and said this is the president's initiative. we want to o...

More interesting what we learned in this book that biden was trying to kind of run a side game at some of the donor events he was doing, it makes a lot of sense, using more donors, we don't hear it in that context is if you look at his polling, it is lousy, he is not covered the way dick cheney is covered. he has obama's numbers, minus the democratic support. if he became serious, democrats would worry about him running. i think he has been effective in thisb jo. they are raising the national figure. >> well, he seems, from what i can tell from the reporting and what i've heard from talking to...

Work. because the average american knew our health care system was in need of help. they have seen costs go up dramatically, there are costs that are absolutely things people want, preexisting condition, allowing you to keep your children under 21. those kind of things. so to say you are going to do away with it doesn't make a lot of sense. i would have said, we think this is a big problem, it's going too fast. it's a 2,000 page bill that nancy pelosi says we won't know what's in it until we pass it. here are the changes we'd like to make and then sit back. if it's going to fail, let it fail o...

We tried to legislate on this subject. we had a hard time getting anything passed. we ultimately got it passed. it was a problem. if i was still in congress, i'd be for immigration reform. i think it's the right thing to do. i think there is a lot of resistance. >> this is marco rubio. let's listen to what he explained at the start of this week. >> i also don't think it's realistic to believe the house will take up and pass whatever the senates are demanding. i think there are many things on immigration we should move on, i think we should move on those and make progress. there are a handful w...

>> that is what is lacking at the federal level is a oneness by all parties to try to do that, to seek higher standards for insurance so that it's worthy of the name health insurance. i mean, it's easy to him co up with a policy that doesn't cover anything and it will be cheaper and what's lacking is this determination, with everyone that's covered and you had that in massachusetts by all parties and the funding you didn't have to have a device tax or other taxes. sure, you were getting a lot of medicaid money from the federal government. that's the point. >> there was no doubt we were getting...