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Do you sense some distancing in that respect? >> i think there is -- first of all, there has been, i think, some concern for a while now. i have written about brennan in his sort of new media personality role now for some time. and, you know, my view is that it's, you know, i think that when he is interviewed, and he makes allegations and says things that, you know, the russians must have something on him. he has an obligation at this point to his viewers now that he is pundit to provide that evidence or he shouldn't make those kinds of accusations on air and should be, you know, providing tha...

And if it's indeed true and not just speculation, not just sort of the regular kind of partisan blather, then that's something that every american would have to take seriously. brian: senator burr said the same thing. haven't heard much from him on the senate intelligence committee. listen, we are trying to pursue. this we haven't found collusion or coordination and we haven't found obstruction. if you did, you better tell us. we have asked you 20 times and you haven't. his response was i'm very disappointed in senator burr who he is fond of. don't be disappointed. just listen. >> what the sen...