Up the system the way it was set up and maintaining it was sort of unremarkable. and i mean i think we can all say, since nobody else ever had one of these things in some respects it is remarkable or at the very least unorthodox. but her point is, look, i mean, everybody uses g mail. you know, we all pass information back and forth through a variety of means and none -- nothing that was passed in any form of email to her was marked classified at the time technically correct but not really the whole story. >> exactly. which is why, steve, the white house had had to walk back the president's com...