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bolduan in for erin burnett, tonight, witness tamperings. cassidy hutchinson said someone in trump's world tried to influence her testimony to the panel and we know now, one of the two examples of possible witness intimidation presented to the committee in that block buster hearing was in fact sent to hutchinson, mark meadow's former aide. >> what they said to me is as long as i continue to be a team player, they know i'm on the right team. i'm doing the right thing, i'm protecting who i need to protect. you know i'll continue to stay in good graces in trump world. and they have remi...

Former trump white house council pat cipelloni, subpoenaed by this committee and remains to be seen if cipelloni cipelloni will be seen by the panel, may be in some limited transcribed interview, but those efforts continue as the committee presses forward. >> and even after that blockbuster hearing, pressing forward with another deposition today. good to see, thanks so much, gloria borger, eli honig, a and alyssa griffin, thank you for being here. eli, first on the possible witness tampering, how much trouble could this now mean for the people around donald trump and donald trump himself if th...

>> that's right. >> doesn't get more stark than that. eli, quick, before we go, i want to ask about pat cipelloni, even more square in the spotlight now, that he may agree to a limited transcribed interview with the january 6th committee, received subpoena, we now know. if he can't talk about presumpt privileged conversations with the white house council which is understandable, how much difference can it still make? >> in an ideal world, you go to court with the committee and try to force him to talk about everything. i don't think he has a valid executive privilege claim, that said, under th...