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And if they are not satisfied they can verify. my guess is they did. you can go as far as a grand jury subpoena. but there is nothing that justified what went on at mar-a-lago. dan: it's unprecedented. this is something that happens in bad movies where the scripts get rejected. this is the kind of battle that could wind up in the supreme court. if the president says he declassified it. this could wind up in the supreme court, couldn't it? >> it could wind up in the supreme court. it's ironic the democrats have been screaming at republican presidents to have an independent attorney general. you...

Representations. and if they are not satisfied they can verify. my guess is they did. you can go as far as a grand jury subpoena. but there is nothing that justified what went on at mar-a-lago. dan: it's unprecedented. this is something that happens in bad movies where the scripts get rejected. this is the kind of battle that could wind up in the supreme court. if the president says he declassified it. this could wind up in the supreme court, couldn't it? >> it could wind up in the supreme court. it's ironic the democrats have been screaming at republican presidents to have an independent atto...

They can verify. my guess is they did. you can go as far as a grand jury subpoena. but there is nothing that justified what went on at mar-a-lago. dan: it's unprecedented. this is something that happens in bad movies where the scripts get rejected. this is the kind of battle that could wind up in the supreme court. if the president says he declassified it. this could wind up in the supreme court, couldn't it? >> it could wind up in the supreme court. it's ironic the democrats have been screaming at republican presidents to have an independent attorney general. you remember when they accused ba...

Members of his legal team are actually planning certain strategies around meadows downfall, including possible criminal charges. patsy, what's your understanding of the meadow situation in total? how have we ended up at this point in which meadows was cooperating, he wasn't, he hasn't been referred doj has his phone records. >> i think it all comes down to the fact that meadows has a very, very, very, very seasoned criminal defense lawyer, who is one of the most senior justice department officials during the prior administration who's been a fixture of washington crisis and legal crisis manage...

That story joins me now. austin, what did you learn? >> an important bit of context for this recording is that the trump world based hunt for a patsy or scapegoat when it comes to january 6th and the events surrounding it are in full swing. if you talk to people on donald trump's legal team and his inner legal and political circle, they will tell you with every breath that they can draw about people that they think whose fault it is. again, we are going to get to the point later that this was essentially all donald trump's fault. when it comes to the rudy giuliani's of the world, the jeffrey c...