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Been such a boom for big billionaire special interests and fossil fuel industry and picking through his record on the circuit may or may not give clues as to that but making the case that this can happen again. we cannot have a supreme court that is delivering politically conservative outcomes no matter how activists it requires the judges to be. 5 to 4, 5 to 4, 5 to 4. it's a pattern chris. it's not a coinsdense. >> well, two by your own standard that we have to be careful because we can't judge the unknown, that would mean that nobody would be acceptable to you unless it was a very activist ...

Principles. a person who is in that secretary needs to understand the bigger picture and be able to roll out policies, manage well, lead well, organize well and her history really shows that she is able to accomplish that, no question. >> great to see you all again. thank you so much for coming in and giving us your latest thoughts on president trump. we'll talk to you again. chris. >> thank you. >> so it's not unusual that someone campaigns for president by saying look i can bring people together. president trump said i'm a business man. i can get people to make deals. well that ain't happeni...