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Nyu, and jonathan capehart an msnbc contributor and opinion writer for "the washington post." thank you both for being here tonight. >> thanks, rev. >> glad to be here. willard and iowa voters have been avoiding each other for years. how did this happen? >> romney has -- enthusiasm is the wrong work. he's not winning because people are enthusiastic. he's gaining ground because he's run a cold, efficient mechanistic campaign that i think will get a nomination without inspiration. the real problem is republicans have is who else do they got? gingrich has serious flaws, and rom any, or willard as...

On everything from abortion to guns, even his own name, who republicans just don't seem to like that much. he's the guy who could win, but that's not the most baffling thing happening in iowa right now. even though a new gallup poll shows romney pulling ahead nationally, and a cnn poll shows him leading in iowa, willard's gop rivals are acting like he doesn't exist, and instead they're piling on ron paul. >> not only was ron paul dangerous when it came to foreign policy. ron paul would be willing to legalize drugs in the united states. >> you can't have your cake and eat it, too, dr. paul. >> ...

And/or rick santorum as serious rivals. paul is ahn unthinkable nominees that would shatter the money and i don't think santorum has the money or the organization to keep this going. at best he'll be a mi mini-huckabee. >> jonathan, when you hear bob shrum say that mr. paul is an unthinkable candidate, then why are all the gop rivals to romney piling on paul? andç could it be that paul, having a good organization on the ground, having some true believers, and the fact that even independents can walk up to a caucus and register republican right that night and go in and vote, could it be that ...

Would be stable, the american economy would do well. the republicans are terrified that we will have a better economy, and so when it comes to things like not extending a tax cut, that would be a terrible idea to not extend that tax cut on working people. >> and they want to lower the taxes -- the tax rate on corpses. romney 25%, santorum 17, paul 15, gingrich 12.5, so it's sort of this protect the rich at all costs, and jump on the middle class and the poor. >> iwe should there should be a 5.6% surtax on income above a million. that means if you're making a million in taxable income after you...