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Can paul ryan play that role? >> i don't think we really know. for those of us who have covered congress, like all three of us, and those of us in washington, we know paul ryan really well. he's been in congress 14 years. but the reality is, he's not really well known outside of our circles. you look at your poll yesterday, the nbc/"wall street journal" poll, and something like 40% of americans don't really have a view at all. it's either neutral or they don't have enough information. so ryan has never taken this stage before. it's a lot like dan quayle, almost, in 1988. where quayle sort of c...

It be around? how much more legs does it have? >> luke, it's president obama at that fund-raiser last night was trying to keep it in the news one more day. it has been the story on monday, tuesday, and we're heading into thursday. republicans want that to be the issue. what are the two main stories we're talking about? abortion, rape, and oh, by the way that hurricane that's probably going to be -- might be headed to tampa, florida. >> the map remains unchanged, we saw that. wisconsin, romney, a little bit. ohio, obama still on top of romney. why after two months, these la two months, that wer...

He didn't know jack kemp, but he sought him out and went to work for jack kemp and bill bennett. he entered the conservative movement right out of college and that's been his rise since. it only took him six years to run for congress at the age of 38. >> conservative intelligenceia. >> that's always been ryan's world and it still is ryan's base. >> i think it's interesting. i interviewed jack kemp about ryan a couple years ago. one of the thing he is predicted that he would be the chairman of ways and means, which is where he is now. which is really interesting, what he would say now. >> inter...

>> i think you are going to hear that, but i think you'll also -- he's also working with dan senor on this speech, so i think you'll hear a little bit about foreign policy from paul ryan in his speech. but, yeah, it is interesting. because on capitol hill, you didn't hear him talk about much about these social issues. so i think you will hear a piece of that. i don't think it's going to focus on that, but i think introducing him will be a part of it. >> and i think one of the challenges for democrats, they're trying to paint this picture of paul ryan as being extremist and using various bits o...

That's what our party must be all about. >> there you have jack kemp, who is fired up like that when he was quarterback for the buffalo bills in the huddle, i'm sure. let's bring in our panel, nathan gonzalez, political editor with the rothenberg political report and contributing writer for "roll call." robert costa is a political reporter for "national review" and a notre dame graduate. we don't hold that against him. and jackie kucinich covers politics for "usa today." welcome, all, to "the daily rundown". >> great to see you, luke. >> let's start right out on paul ryan, because robert, you'...