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Transform what kind of campaigner mitt romney is. people are ultimately not going to vote for romney because at least he has chris christie there. it's a different calculation. i think president bush then governor bush made the selection of cheney to send a more subtle message to people who had questions about his credentials and experience, to say okay, there's going to be a guy there that's really experienced who you can trust. perceptions of cheney were different back in 2000 than they are now. i think the same was true of the biden pick. so, you know, whether it's a hard core political cal...

Were able to do to romney is take an unknown quantity and define him. >> defined him. >> but i don't think it's over, joe and i don't accept there's so few undecides because a lot of people who say they're for a candidate can switch their mind. i think romney has to give a terrific convention speech. >> yeah. >> that's his big change to move the momentum and then follow that up with three solid debate performances. bad economic news, this is still an election. >> yeah. >> it's -- i couldn't know one speech is going to do it he has to have a lead up to the convention that has a couple news item...

Not ready to be president. >> i could give the same argument about chris christie. >> he's been a hell of a governor. >> i think you're right. marco rubio not ready to be vice president. >> he would have opened up the same questions. ryan -- >> biggest problem -- >> looks like he's 25. >> he has a cute face. >> i worked on the clinton/gore campaign and what was great about visually, you saw those two faces and there was a statement there. >> i actually think -- >> the thing about ryan and romney, there is a kind of mount rushmore look. they look like they come from the same school, and it is v...

Going to say an awful lot about mitt romney. if he goes with pawlenty or portman, then he is that manager who wants to have the stage to himself. and have a subordinate basically, not that both of these gentlemen aren't hugely successful in their own rights. if he does go with a chris christie, it's somebody willing to take the chance to do what it takes to win. >> yeah. we'll learn what kind of a risk taker he is and how comfortable he is. he would be with somebody who's not like him. who's different from him. and that will tell us i think a lot about mitt romney. what's the record of preside...

48 hours unfolded and christie had been the vice presidential pick, how this ad controversy would have been slapped down. >> oh! >> and completely ripped to shreds and made better for romney? >> he would have chewed dan burton's head and spit it out. >> i -- come on. >> feel a little frightened. >> why can't the proposed president do that. he needs a vice president? >> you know what -- >> joe biden does barack obama. >> you were going to give a big piece of news. >> put your arms around him, bring him -- >> you are so emotionally connected to the audience when you say to them, we've got someth...