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of veterans' groups and talk about the things they care, and the hard thing for veterans, they have experiences that they feel they can't articulate so they carry them, and carrying them as a solitary effort makes them the person they are and hants them. the more they discuss that with other people and tell their story is a beginning of the part of their healing. what they've seen, obviously, will never leave them, but keeping it to themselves is somehow keeping it dangerous, and so if you -- also in my own work, i'm expressing those experiences, being a marine in iraq, and in my wri...

[inaudible conversations] >> good afternoon, everyone. i'm the book editor of the jewish journal, and it's my honor and privileged to moderate today's panel called "vision of the west," and we'll go for one hour, ten minutes before the end, we'll open the microphones on the floor so if a question occurs to you in the program, hold it until the end, and i'll invite you to come up. we are being taped by c-span. it will go out over the waves. after the program is over, the authors will be signing their book at signing area seven and the volunteers will help you find it. let me start by ...