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Together when the message is as simple at pelosi made it it was open the government first, talk about the details later. she started to use the term hostage a lot and made it so that people were thinking about the idea that this shutdown was taking federal workers and their paychecks hostage. that's something really easy to rally people around and her members largely agreed with her on this. i do think it will be interesting if republicans can capture the fact that there are some actual real divisions within democrats about what happens next, what does border security mean, how far do you go i...

Now is president trump is holding 250,000 veterans' paychecks hostage for his border wall. the polling shows more americans blame the president now for the shutdown than blame democrats. are you worried about the optics for your party as this continues? >> do you know who i'm worried about? are the american people suffering -- >> for sure. goes without saying. >> also where i think the fingers will be pointed will be at congress itself. congress. >> you're not worried about how republicans in congress look then? >> i'm worried about how the institution of congress is laughed at and looked at a...

Partisan people. they probably want border security but what they want more are their paychecks. if nancy pelosi holds their paychecks hostage to score political points against trump, i don't think that looks good. life goes on when the government is shutdown. the myth is everything stops when the government shuts down. to have that fantasy out there -- >> we are paying 4 trillion dollars a year as a society for government. it's been shutdown for 12 days and it has had little impact on any american's life? >> 800,000 people. >> i am talking about the people out there. >> i want to talk about t...

On twitter that much of the wall has been built. he didn't say much of the barrier has been built or that steel slats have been built. what he said is not true. none of his wall has been built. democrats are taking control of the house tomorrow. and they say the president's chances of getting any wall at all are slim to none. so now the president is holding federal workers' paychecks hostage in his fight for the wall he probably won't get. this is the reality. day 13 of the government shutdown begins in just a few minutes, and the president is not paying federal workers because he wants you an...

Steel slats have been built. what he said is not true. none of his wall has been built. democrats are taking control of the house tomorrow. and they say the president's chances of getting any wall at all are slim to none. so now the president is holding federal workers' paychecks hostage in his fight for the wall he probably won't get. this is the reality. day 13 of the government shutdown begins in just a few minutes, and the president is not paying federal workers because he wants you and me to pay for the wall. if mexico is really going to pay for it and they say they won't, the government ...