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As if the first didn't go -- we've seen four straight days of protests in afghanistan, some very violent. the protests started on friday with attack on a u.n. compound which kill seven u.n. staff members. all told, at least 20 people have been killed during the protests, and almost 150 people have been wounded. pastor jones is a nut job, was that a stupid idea? everybody tried to talk him out it, including pe traez, even president obama made a comment about it. we told him it was dumb, but you know who's crazier? people who kill others based on a book burning. i'm going to say something that's...

To -- and again no better word for the guy in florida than a jerk, was outrage over an occupation and a war that's gone on for 30 years. >> them burning the people in effigy, that's totally fine, my mind doesn't comprehend it, but that's the problem. we're trying to put our form of democracy on folks who apparently have no interest in it quu imagine how would they take that? >> cenk, you're right. it's a different country. we're involved in somebody else's civil war there. we sxlated this conflict two years ago in march of '09, president obama sent 20,000 more troops to afghanistan. and in dec...