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This war proceeds from here on out so they, like diplomats everywhere are on tinder hooks they don't know whether xi jinping will propose yet another peace treaty that will call for a cease-fire and mied end up ceding land to ukraine that's something kyiv has roundly rejected they're still waiting to see what happens because xi jinping has held out the possibility there might be a phone call, the first since the war began between xi jinping and ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy this week after this meeting in moscow so there is some hope here in ukraine that this meeting might not go ent...

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The last two years? >> it is both. strategically, china has a grand plan to dominate the world and they actually have articulated the goal by 2049, they want to displace the united states as dominant power militarily and economically. so right now he's partnering, so to speak, with putin to challenge us. yes, president joe biden is perceived as a weak president by russia and by china and this is why they feel like they can intimidate us and they can challenge us in every possible way. >> ashley: what about the timing of this meeting? it is next monday and he's supposed to be talking to zelensk...

Trying to attack moscow, attack anyone not part of the western mode of being and this plays into their fight for influence around the world especially china's fight for influence and business and political deals. this helps china eat away at u.s. supremacy at a time when it is trying to supplant the united states in the next couple decades. as you mentioned, beijing is trying to position itself like a potential peace maker or at least a power broker, which negotiators have to go through if they want moscow to withdraw any forces. only in the last two weeks did beijing sort of supplant u.s. dip...

Negotiation between ukraine and russia. what does that do to our role having put so much on the line in this fight already? >> well, let's just start with the good news. the good news is peace through any means in ukraine would be a good thing that would come at a cost. it's ironic that president xi in china would be the peace maker since they're the ones that have funded russia's aggression the past year. but it would come at a cost to the biden administration, that peace, because president xi just had success in the middle east. normalizing relations between the saudis and the iranians. what...