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With the taliban over prisoner swap, quite obviously. >> indeed. and let us hope that this is the opening chapter in what might be a more robust series of interactions between the united states government and the taliban leadership over finding ways to end elements of the hostilities in afghanistan. i'ming negotiate with all the taliban thankses. there are some committed to the support of al qaeda, but there are others whose aims are simply afghan focused. it's been a long-standing goal of the obama administration to find a way to get a negotiated settlement here as our troops are drawing down...

Together to start looking at other ways to find a more peaceful path forward in afghanistan. >> the final point i make here you wrote an incredible book about the u.s. war in iraq, and the surge, much beloved by those on the right and runs, a key strategic aspect was directly talking to people who months earlier had been blowing up american troops, shooting at them, ambushing them with ieds. that was a strategic game, was to bring the people off the incentury generals si, and so that was not condemned as essentially negotiating with terrorists in that case. >> that's a great point, chris, and ...

And let us hope that this is the opening chapter in what might be a more robust series of interactions between the united states government and the taliban leadership over finding ways to end elements of the hostilities in afghanistan. i'm not saying negotiate with all the taliban thankses. there are some committed to the support of al qaeda, but there are others whose aims are simply afghan focused. it's been a long-standing goal of the obama administration to find a way to get a negotiated settlement here as our troops are drawing down there. it's incumbent upon the united states to look for...