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Out of the hands of rogue nations like iran and terrorist groups like al qaeda. two positive developments so far, china agreeing to work with the u.s. possibly on sanctions against iran. also the ukraine promising to get rid of nuclear bomb making materials. david albright is a former united nations weapons inspector who has written extensively about the weapons trade in his new book "pedaling peril." he joins us from washington. great to see you this morning. >> good to be here. >> what do you make of this announcement by ukraine that by the time of the next meeting on nuclear proliferation...

>> we mentioned at the top of this, david, in your new book "pedaling peril," you're tracing the threat of terrorists getting their hands on nuclear materials, not nuclear bomb already constructed. the president says the biggest threat to the united states is terrorists getting their hands on components for a nuclear weapon. al qaeda has been working for 15 years to try to get one of these thingsment how great is the threat? and in your research, how diligently is al qaeda searching for the components for a nuclear bomb? >> well, all the evidence supports that al qaeda is looking to try to gat...