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Really reflecting on the endless wars that follow the events of september 11th. here's what you wrote then. i'll put it on the screen and read it a loud. you said to avoid it the major continuous of terror wars, we must move the issues of war and peace from the periphery of the our national discourse to its center. and the only way to do that i increasingly believe is to reconsider the draft." my point is you didn't have ukraine on the brain, at least as far as i know at that time. how, if at all, has your thinking change idea. >> my thinking hasn't changed. and correct, i was writing that in ...

Which is that he has a prickly side. but in moments that are high pressure, high stakes, he can be very kurt with people. he can sometimes be dismissive. he clearly thought he was, in this case, and tried to clean it up as he said. but i remember once talking to an aide of his who remembered him getting off the phone with a foreign leader. it hadn't gone well. and then-vice president biden said, you know, don't ever put me in that position, again. so he has a temper, and you sometimes see it when the -- when the stakes are high. >> the president also said, today, that the last thing that vladi...