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Chairman, and we appreciate here at the beginning of this assessment you coming on to set the table for us. thank you very much. >> el with, thawell, thank you. it's my pleasure. i always watch you at home. >> hopefully you'll be on the show more and watching from home less. you'll be pivotal in this pros process so congressman eliot engel, thank you. >> congressman engel is the old guard. congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez is the new guard. she's been waiting for speaker pelosi to come around. how does she feel about what seems to be the democrat plan of being all in on this ukraine matte...

We'd like to do this in another jurisdiction so that no one finds out about it. i mean, if everything that prosecutors were doing was above board, then why did they try to keep it secret? i mean, that's one thing that alex acosta -- no one has really answered. they say, well, this was approved at all levels of the justice department. if that's true, why did they keep is secret? >> and what would be alex a acosta's incentive to do this? what was in it for him? why would he behave this way as a u.s. attorney? >> el with, think about it, he is the labor secretary. he's a cabinet woke only sansed ...

On it. if they force the issue, what happened? claudia is here with us what do you think happens? >> el with, neil, it's going to be -- what they're trying to do, what the u.s. maneuvering is to do is move in impasse the direction of the dictator maduro steps down. that's the game. i think its risky and juan guaido has been willing to take the risk. this could bad a very big weekend. this is taking us what has been an impasse for the past month now since he became interim president. >> neil: what would happen if the government were to force that issue with the government that we recognize, gua...

Doing this now to fulfill a campaign promise? >> elwith, i think he actually could have allowed all this to happen and fulfill the campaign promise. he could have said i got my wall and let the democrats say, no, you didn't. and also i think the thing really frustrating to a lot of republicans is we know the leeway the trump base gives hill. and it's broader anything than barack obama's base had or bush's base had in their respective presidencies. he can cut the deal on immigration that say a president jeb bush wouldn't be have been allowed to by the republican party and say not only did i get...

That the investigation has entered any kind of new phase? did anything change effectively today or this week? >> el with,well, the difference barr and whitaker in terms of overseeing the investigations are not terribly misleading. once it left rosenstein's hand, that's a bigger change. barr, presumably has more authority and more cloud in making a decision like the one we are talking about right now. i think bob mueller's office had been aware of what's been hanging over them quite a wile. i imagine rushing to get whatever they can and taking some sort of plan evolved in case they fiepd tnd th...