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And he was told no. he felt comfortable texting back saying the president has been clear. if he's going in there without any documents, and is only going to be able to give his own per speck -- perspective. >> if it's he said, she said, he can stick by his version, in contrast to what bill taylor said. >> speak of all the president's men, there is a particular former official who we had not heard from in totality and we may, that is john bolton. within minutes, senior officials including john bolton were being pinged by subordinates about problems about what the president said to his ukrainian...

From barr's per speck is thtive has been very conversational and chatty about his thinking on how to handle the mueller probe. there's obviously a fevered debate about whether or not what he's saying is true. whether he's sort of presenting the facts in a way that's divorced from vital context but the fact that he initially released a letter, the fact that he had that infamous press conference right before the report became public and now an interview for up to an hour with a network correspondent going through in detail his decision, that's interesting and it's not insignificant. >> let's tal...

What he thinks from an intelligence per speck tiff, what needs to happen when it comes to propaganda. how does he think we will get after it? we will get after it on a friday night. >> appreciate that. more news, we will be right back. s is my body of proof. [man 2] proof of less joint pain... [woman 3] ...and clearer skin. [man 3] proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis... [woman 4] ...with humira. [woman 5] humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further irreversible joint damage, ...

Because you're going to step into it if you don't speak the right word. >> what do you think his lawyers are going to recommend to him? >> tighten up as much as b possible. he can't take all written responses. they're going to try to control what areas they're going to diskuz. i would try to control the duration of the interview. you don't want to be there all day, but this is going to take hours. if they agree to do this, it's going to have to be in person and take a while. >> jeffrey, what do you think? in the best of all world frs mueller's per speck, what does -- >> eight hours under oath....

Top of the organization better than men. that's what it comes down to. i pay, in many cases, i pay the women mor. there's women that get wade a lot of money. >> last night, trump was light on specifics. his campaign says they are coming. while it was certainly a warm welcome here in michigan, maybe not as much as trump would like. there were 1,000 people waiting to get in. when we looked, just two people were waiting. >> thank you very mun. joining us now is christine "today" whitman. so good to have you hear. >> good to be here. >> we need the per speck oif of people in the became and what we...