On paper and then erasing it and redrawing it and filming and making into animated films. if you are drawing and you film it as it s being done frame by frame, the drawing comes into being but you can keep on the process of erasing and drawing and the drawing has a kind of movement. there were interesting combinations of this. one i think, temperamentally for me, it was interesting to find a way within artmaking to be able to show the world as process rather than fact. you can say, here s a table, do a drawing of a table, there is a table, there is a fact. but you can also say a table is one stage between going backwards, the planks, the sawmill, the tree, and going forward, the broken table, the fire, and ashes. with animation, you acknowledge that that table is one moment in a process of becoming. in terms of the world seeing the work, there ....