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Nefarious but they have a perception problem. this is something that is much more significant than anything that the mueller investigation has faced to date, which is real and very serious allegations that they are not conducting this investigation in a fair and honest way. and, in fact, not only that, but having no transparency into the process whatsoever. it wasn't until we found out through other means the lead investigator had been compromised that they decided to provide the documentation to congress. so they've got a real big problem here. one of which i'm sure they will want to remedy. ...

Republican and democratic administrations have made a series of decisions that have effectively allowed for much more immigration then was supposed to be allowed under the law of the united states. as part of this, they look at temporary protected statuses and say look, they call them temporary, they go on for a very long time. the difference in haiti is this earthquake is much more recent than the stuff -- the statuses that existed for central america, had gone on much longer. i think here as rick notes, the argument that haiti is ready to take these people back i think is a very difficult ar...

Owns direct tv. now there are concerns the justice department could block it unless they spin off cnn and the turner media group. president trump has had his issues with fake news. how big a story is this? >> you know, there is a bit of a perception problem for the administration because of the president's repeated tweets on cnn as fake news and justice officials say you either have to get rid of turner broadcasting or cnn that's a classic antitrust concern when you have two big companies on the verge of merging. i don't think there is any evidence the justice department is improperly pressuri...

Rene marsh, thank you very much. i'm joined by my panel. jen psaki, kevin madden. let's talk about this travel budget thing writ large. it's not just the pence trip. it's a bunch of trips in. is this an issue outside of the beltway as well? is this hitting folks at home, the middle part of the country? are they looking at this and saying, hey, where is my tax money? >> i think you have to put the pence one aside. i think they have a very different standard of security and expectations, quite frankly, for a president and vice president. yeah, these do become problems. i think if you're inside -...

Where you start having the problems. >> you seem to be talking about -- >> pardon? >> you seem to be saying that the administration is suffering from a perception problem here. you know perception in a disaster response can be very important. >> perception is reality. perception is absolutely reality. and that's why i say if we have -- if we have containers that have been moved off the ships on to the docks, the key point nows absolutely push as hard as you can. in fact, brock long and the president and the secretary of defense should be saying to everybody right now, get everything out into a...