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You know, i'm very skeptical for the reason that was just laid out. i'm very skeptical that you see anything beyond the narrowest of deals emerge out of this group tasked with trying to cut a deal. because the large ter getr it g daca, permanent daca, you start losing people. and, again, donald trump, who knows. some days it sounds like he's okay if there's just money to repair what's there and maybe build some. some days he wants a wall from sea to shining sea. i still think the ultimate outcome here most likely outcome is that a deal is crafted he does not like or he signals republicans not ...

Expects american taxpayers to do it what am i hopeful for? the next 20 days we see members from both sides sit down and work with the cbp as to the areas they have specifically outlined, every inch of our border outlined what needs to be done, whether fencing, technology, feet on the beat, we have an opportunity to come to a comprehensive solution to provide appropriate protection let's not forget, ports are more important than the border to make sure we have the right resources in place that's pretty universally accepted >> your location has hatem rarely protected status. what would you give ...

Border wall in exchange for permanent daca and tps protections? >> i have to say after this last incident it is very clear that the president and many of his associates are sociopaths, or at least in that kind of behavior i have been to the border. i have met with federal workers who haven't been paid. sociopaths don't have any empathy for the cruelty that they impose on other people. they are pathological liars, clinically and they have a great sense of grandiosity. that fits exactly what i have seen the president do during this shutdown. so we need to focus on the real issues we don't have t...

Are you bringing to the table? they don't have as much incentive, but 800,000 people might be incentive. >> they have the lever rage here and they're using it. so they can very easily come forward with a proeposal that says om open tpen the governmen what we need is comprehensive, permanent daca and tps, a number of other things, and, you know, it's very hard to say that the president's come forward with good faith because this is the basic deal that they've come forward with twice and when democrats said yes, the president said, no, no, i've changed my mind. so it's incumbent upon the preside...