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Policy, takes where he's always said he'll go after somebody if they come after him on policy decisions. but on personality stuff, not sure you'll see him go after trump. >> trump supporters really like a strong candidate. is it going to backfire? >> i think it very well could. there's always unpredictable things that happen in these debates but certainly tu lly tr cruz trying to appeal to the same base. cruz certainly seems to enjoy an advantage among evangelicals, among the most conservative in the state. and among those that have voted before so we'll see which way this goes. i think either...

>> i'm under arrest for what? >> does any of that make sense to you? >> we haven't heard the officer's account, but this is a common issue. it's hard to get personalities out of this the officer's personality, the individual's personality, no matter how good the training is but it's incumbent for the cops to stay out of the personality stuff. a couple issue that is come to mind we're not going at trainings police how to recognize mental health and people that have raised-up conditions. one thing that's very hard to teach well is when to back out, not to keep digging. you are seeing a situation...

We have seen the and they are waiting to see governor christie where he is posing with people and taking photos and doing that big personality stuff that he does on the campaign trail. he is also talking to us along the way and i asked him about all of this 2016 buzz. here's what he had to say. >> it sounds like you are planning for a message beyond new jersey. is that fair? >> i'm not planning for it. it's inevitable. people try to discern things about what they mean of that moment and for the future. i think what people are going to see is so unusual. i hope they do. >> i also ask govern nor...

Everyone is so concerned about the negative repercussions of helping someone. >> steve: i might get sued! >> yeah. but i'm just not going to worry about that. i'll worry about that after the fact. i'd rather sleep at night dealing with the fact i may be sued than dealing with the fact that someone died because of my lack of initiative. >> brian: we know last night was a big night for you. it was craig morgan all access outdoors, the fourth season of the show. what's going to be different this year? >> there is a lot more personality stuff in the shows. this is an outdoor show. we hunt, fish, s...

Time. and he despised anybody who we thought turned on it too early. and he faults hagel for that. for bailing on the iraq war. the first for personality stuff. second urt comes down to iraq. >> the other thing that's been curious here is this sort of process is evolving where the names get floated out there without actually being named. only to be attacked without having anybody to their support. >> and and b rhea mitchell was pretty critical with the white house strategy if it is a strategy. let's take a listen. >> this cannot continue to float trial balloons and have them shot down. the pre...