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Hyper partisan divided election cycle which 2020 will be, it is more of a turn out model than it is a persuasion model and it's counter into ti counter intuitive how you see poll situations behave. in reality what it insent vises them to do is to become more partisan, excite and turn out more people on their side than you see on the other side. and that is i think the election that the nrsc over on the senate side is preparing to run most of their senators in. it's that type of partisan tomorrow on our very last episode of "a.m. joy" for this cycle. not a consensus cycling. entire decade, ou...

Business. >> joy, get in here. i think this is a classic geographic situation we have in our country. their attitude is, yeah, have your abortions in new york, massachusetts, go ahead. back here, back here we're going to have our own law and effectively get around the supreme court. i think this is -- my hunch maybe because i'm an optimist, within a year or two we're going to get to the supreme court and wipe this stuff away, they're going to clean the brush away. >> that's not what they were betting on. when i was growing up, the right to life movement, the persuasion model of rolling back ab...

Evolve on this issue. >> you really believe in evolution? >> of course i believe in evolution. we leave no stone unturned at lob cabin republicans. some of the most rock ribbed social conservatives are the people most interested in finding out more about the work we're doing in this organization. one thing i point out to dr. armstrong i think is really important -- >> do you ever get to meet the people who write your party platform? >> last year before i was executive director, log cabin was involved. >> what was your role in drafting the one man, one woman thing? >> we were obviously there ta...

Direction in your polling? >> i don't see that there's a movement in that direction amongst folks who are solid conservatives. i don't see that there's a movement in that direction. what i see is that we're saying, listen, our tone on this needs to be we are accepting of all people who agree with us on 80% of the issues but there are some issues we don't compromise. >> dr. armstrong, you did not -- >> i do believe -- >> the rnc does not do that. >> we're in no way against people at all. >> having this resolution, the rnc, a completely unnecessary resolution, simply stating you're restating the...

>> you have 52 democrats. you need seven republicans, to be blunt about, it to clear a filibuster. >> yes, we cleared the filibuster. >> to begin the debate. >> exactly. but we're not looking for 60. we're looking for a lot more than that. >> i'm worried about getting the 60, not getting a lot more than that. you're so frisky about this. you're already talking about more than 60. >> we're headed to the house. the house is goal. >> i think there are pickups you can look at. mark kirk -- >> he's already on my list. i counted him. >> you counted him. susan collins. maybe even john mccain you have...