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Denial of reality. >> yes. >> today the pentagon, as we have over a dozen guy there's surrounded by the enemy. our producer asked the pentagon spokesperson it kind of seems like combat. i realize the president declares that this war is over. it kind of seems like combat. and they denied it, pete. they actually tried -- they said well, we know it'sbut they're s we have combat operations going on there. >> they've lived in a wordsmith alternate reality for a long time now. a year ago they declared combat operations over. and you ask a guy like brandon webb whether or not this is combat operation...

What i'm saying is the people who were under fire in the compound, what is now undertaking, i can't go into all the details i was told. we're trying to figure out how to go back on the offensive. right now while we're engaged, we want to go after these guys. >> brendan, if they're still there, why would they still be? why wouldn't the united states military be able to get its people out of there like that. >> our source confirmed what tony said. we heard it was small contingent of u.s. army special forces, an a team and some army rangers. and that they were successfully extracted. and i litera...

By the fact that they will destabilize pakistan. pakistan has nuclear weapons. we have to consider the results of libya and the results of syria. not take positive action. we don't maintain it here, we will see -- >> i'll let you weigh in, pete. again, we are getting different information from you guys. and you guys are very well connected. i just want our viewers to realize that there is a conflict in the information. our very well respected guys are getting and what we're getting. we'll try to get to the bottom because we want to know if our troops are in harm's way and in a situation right ...

What i'm saying is the people who were under fire in the compound, what is now undertaking, i can't go into all the details i was told. we're trying to figure out how to go back on the offensive. right now while we're engaged, we want to go after these guys. >> brendan, if they're still there, why would they still be? why wouldn't the united states military be able to get its people out of there like that. >> our source confirmed what tony said. we heard it was small contingent of u.s. army special forces, an a team and some army rangers. and that they were successfully extracted. and i litera...

Compound. and around it is a sea of red, representing hostile forces. listen now to the pentagon. >> and there has been an effort once again, as i mentioned before, to make sure that everything is being done to secure the safety of those americans and the afghan forces that they were accompanying. >> and we should note a number of afghan forces were also injured in today's battle as well. megyn? >> trace, thank you. joining me now with more lieutenant kernel tony shafer who served two combat tours in afghanistan and is author of "operation dark heart. ". pete hex seth is an afghanistan war vet...