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Delled. in the same debate he made an answer about iraq and afghanistan and seemed to mix them up. i think the terms of the vice president on race, it was the idea of -- mayor pete sort of got there, floating the study that's about the number of words you hear as an infant, whether that sets your learning ability going forward. that's largely been disproven. there's contrary evidence presented to that. i think it showed a disconnect for the vice president to really answer an issue on race, particularly because also the base of his support to this point has been african-american voters. >> agai...