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And the other is her suggesting that donald trump is actually a recruiting tool for isis. we're not exactly sure where she got that, but that is going to be an instant, that question that we're going to fact check. how can she prove that? >> we're going to be doing a lot of fact checking. peter binert is one of our editors, a editor of "the atlantic," the notion that isis is using donald trump's statements about using muslims from banning to the united states. have you seen evidence that isis is doing that? >> no, i haven't. the truth is, and i think. >> is a hard thing for republicans and dem...

Watch this. >> when we look at these complex problems, i wish it could be either/or. i wish we could say yes, let's destroy isis and devoid -- by the minute. no. we have a strategy and a commitment to go after isis which is danger to us as well as the region. >> peter, what do you think? >> that was a good answer and she's right, actually. she does finally have a strategy. it's a very difficult issue, but john kerry is now beginning the diplomatic process. they have a u.n. resolution. she's right on the subject which is bashar al assad is the recruiter for isis. as long as you have him there a...

To think about what happens the day after. >> peter, did he make his case strongly? >> yeah. you have a cross cutting debate on a strategy. the one realist position, stick with the bad dictators to at least provide stability. the other view being we have to overthrow the incity gators because they are the cause. this will be a different general election debate if she's standing up there against cruz or trump -- >> but trump doesn't disagree with him when it comes to this. >> the hillary is running against trump or cruz, she will be running against smvn who is against the libya intervention and...

There's any third or accomplice involved. there's video coming out that shows the assault and process, we'll show it to you as we have a discussion about why this might have happened. >> we have peter binert and bobby ghosh, let's set the scene for people. it's not a surprise that this happens wildfire it happened. in paris, two this magazine. now that we hear that the shooters supposedly said we have avenged the prophet, bobby, let's bring you in here what is the dynamic that's being revealed in this violence. it's a satirical magazine. often the target is religion or religious people. a lot ...

But he has a structural problem that he really can't get over. and that is that while congress may be willing to approve sanctions, he's got europe which is really a problem for him. so we can do this visa ban and this asset limits for individuals, but anything broader such as what we did with iran is very hard to get to. so the president's in kind of a tough spot here where ironically the congress is willing to support him i think more than europe. >> peter, it's interesting if you take a look at -- you heard brian todd's report on lobbyists, foreign agents working for russia here in the unit...